It was not about whom we were talking, we were talking about PTI and all the things are the same. Now we have gone into a very dangerous mode if Malik sahab had the same opinion at the beginning when Khan sahab's first statement came and then statements kept coming again and again that look Asim Munir sahab, we are feeling the heat and we do not want to do anything. Today Umar sahab also said this, at that time it was being felt that maybe some game is going on behind the scenes that is why Khan sahab is softening his statements but today with the army's statement you yourself are saying that it seems that the level is exactly the same there, so if the level is the same then what is the reason for these statements of Khan sahab, see I think I had already talked about it in your program, I also talk about it, big people also used to get angry when I used to say that it is out of the question that the talks that are going on, that three people met, four people met, there is no such thing, absolutely there is no such thing. They say that the line has been drawn, it will not be erased, it will not happen, look at me, I am very sure that Khan sahab feels that in the current system, he will not get any share, no relief of any kind, no share. Now the matter is being heated up so much and it has become so that he wants that just like the civilian government took a big decision, but this is another thing that he had to back off and say that we will ban the party, we will also impose Article Six, we will also file a case of treason, what is the maximum action of the army which happened in Bangladesh, okay, he should step in himself, I think that now he is also ready to heat up the matter so much that it goes out of everyone's hands, it goes out of the hands of the Supreme Court, the Supreme Court does not know anything, no one is ready to follow its order, and now whatever I am giving, the government is not ready to do it.I have been listening since long, today I was also talking about it in the show that though it is not number one, but a serious move is going on and a decision has been taken that at any cost constitutional amendment must be done for judicial reforms, when this bill is passed, now for that they need people from JUI and they will need five-six people from PTI, from where will they come? I don't know but a serious talk is going on, if tomorrow the government makes such a move by any means, by manipulation, by buying, by scaring, what ever, then you can see that it is a repeat of 90s, where maybe two Supreme Courts are sitting and Supreme Court is fighting with each other, we are going towards a perfect case and this Bangladesh is a very good wake-up call for everyone to see there also and this army chief was there in Bangladesh, Jonah Baj Sahiba himself had appointed him, he is related to him from a distance, so he had his own handpicked army chief, one The point
came that there also the tipping point has come. After seeing the situation here and the language we have heard in the rally today, it has become clear to me that now any kind of talks cannot take place. And you were repeatedly talking about the People's Party with them, that is absolutely correct. Here also the thought is that if
some scenario is also seen as an exercise here or what is called a game plan, that is there a game
if many things get out of hand, then it is possible that the top government may change and you may take the People's Party forward because
PTI will talk to the People's Party indirectly because their power base is not Punjab, the battle of Punjab is between Khan sahab
and and Sharif family, so they will not talk to them. Even Zardari sahab's statement went viral, did you hear any confirmation of it?
I read how much effort I saw on social media that they say that new elections should be held in the country, PTI
Atlee said this Nar Bukhari sahab's statement was made through Nar Bukhari sahab, he is the party's secretary general, so you throw a tester, so that can be a temporary thing, if the People's Party is brought to the forefront, there are talks here, but one thing is that there is no such thing that there will be no talk of PTI and army because army is absolutely not ready and today whatever language was used on the pardon, now on the other side he is the sitting chief minister, his power base is KP, now his swords are completely out on both sides, the sword of the army. From last 5 August to this 5 August, we have seen, it has been 12 months that Khan sahab has been in jail, from this 5 August to the next 5 August, you
seem to think that it is not surprising that he spends a year in jail again, you think that no brother, this matter will not last that long, now this matter has to reach some end, there is a lot of time till next 5 August, let's see, here the effort will be made to ensure that he
is in jail. Let this chatter continue, let there be noise, let there be gatherings, let there be noise, let there be more noise
but the government should continue but again the same thing is that right now the courts are a very important
thing, we forget that there is a tribunal right now, if the decisions of the tribunal start coming
yes, that one spark from the Punjab tribunal, Islamabad tribunal
will emerge which can immediately change the political landscape, that is why it is lying in its place right now, it is in the Supreme Court right now, if they pass this bill in the court and then make any other move, I
think that two-three months will probably pass in cycles, but this tribunal and
the decisions of the Supreme Court will speed up things Mali sahab, if I ask a direct question if it comes to a
level where there is no control at all, for example, there should be no number control to bring a constitutional amendment,
there should be no tribal control, there should be control of the decision of the Supreme Court If he starts calling and harassing you, then the court will take action in that situation. Martial law emergency is completely out of question or do you think that we will not try. The financial conditions are not such that it should be imposed but if everything gets out of hand then we might go to that extent. Look at the matter, I think the establishment will try its best to handle things through its political proxies but if political proxies do not work out and even changing faces does not work out and instead of Muslim League, People's Party comes to the top, I think a despring can come where you change the top and if that also does not happen then I do not rule it out. I am talking with great fear because this is not good for the country in any way, not at all for our democracy or media but this is not out of question at this time where things have been imposed, here everyone's heads are being used. Here the assistance is the army. The chief understands the existential threat.
Khan sahab is worried about his assistants. Both the political leaders and the People's Party are in existential threat. Your
top judges of the Supreme Court are also worried about their own survival. So when
the first priority of all power centers is their own survival, then the
survival of the country is in danger, isn't it? And when you talk to someone like this, some of our friends also say that my PTI
people, they also understand this. They think that who knows, maybe some channel of dialogue is going on, not directly, they themselves are not
doing it, but some joint conversation is going on between the two in which the other side is also facing it, who can say that we did not talk if gayIf the talks get spoiled then from here also, that is, in your opinion, no talks are going on in any form or on this, there is no direct talks going on, no sir, they are not going on in any form, but if the People's Party gets some central role, then I see a very high possibility that talks can go on on side lines and a negotiated settlement will come somewhere, as long as PMLN is sitting on top, negotiation settlement seems to be absolutely impossible to me, so it means that now one more thing, what you are saying, repeated press conferences, last time also he had said that we will interact with you more, this too can be said in a way, sir, it means that the government could not manage, the government is not able to make its own natives, how will it make others, then we ourselves are coming and talking, sir, today's press conference can be said to be big Wasim was important in this sense that firstly he retold the Nath issue and
ended all the things which people were thinking about which you were also asking that after all the statement changed there too, so there is no reason
firstly he ended that and secondly today in your press conference we noted that he was telling about the achievements of the army as an institution, we did this positive thing, we did this thing and when smuggling was discussed and someone said that you are sitting on the borders, then the answer came from the front that who gives these permits for oil mining, we are not giving everything and if we catch terrorists, we catch smugglers, then the law which should have been made was not made by anyone.
He was told that you have talked about health and agriculture which are provincial subjects, so he said that if no one else is doing it, then why shouldn't we do it today?
It was clearly visible that there was a desire or an effort of the army that the army We are doing this for the sake of revenue
institution, we have given so many sacrifices, we are doing so much, what are we doing for this country, then you
see a little distance, a little gap between us, earlier both of them used to talk in one breath, now the declared enemy is PTI,
but the ownership of the government, I did not see that ownership from the side of the government
institution as it was seen before today, so I found this press conference very important in a way
because this little distance is the same, we take a step aside, not much, a little
step aside, so this is a development, but very soon we are moving towards very big decisions and it is very important for everyone to talk to each other with great unity.
Thank you very much, Mohammad Malik, I was talking to the father-in-law, now let's see what
the situation becomes in the future. Inshallah, may your life remain healthy, we will meet tomorrow
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